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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:25 pm 
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A gun store in a nearby town was having a sale (and these guys are known for being seriously good on their prices). I made the drive to that town and lined-up before they opened. The line snaked-around the parking lot, even thought it was raining.

Everyone else ran in and grabbed modern stuff, I saw these old (police?) trade-in S&W Revolvers were on-sale and grabbed one at a great price.

This is a Model 10-8
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For a ".38 Special only" revolver, the barrel is really thick, almost like a .357's barrel. Barrel is 4-inches.
From what I have read, these later "dash" numbers like 10-8 should be capable of handling +p loads without trouble? (don't quote me on that!)

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One of the things I've learned to do on Revolvers (or any gun with removable grips) is to always check under the Grip panels for rust:
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This one is clean. The wood grips fit very tightly, even with the screw out I had to gently wiggle them to get them free.

Didn't see any police/unit markings, that I can tell.

Bluing is worn near the muzzle from holster wear.
On the right-side sideplate, there is some brown speckling spots about the size of a thumbprint, looks like a left-handed person had a habit of touching their thumb to that sideplate.

I'm not a revolver expert, but from what I have read: The Model 10 was to the Revolver-era what the Glock is the to SemiAuto-era... that is, alot of police departments, corrections dept, security guards, etc, used Model 10's. It is one of the most-produced handguns in the world. It has a long lineage and in previous incarnations was called the "M&P" or "Victory" model.

The price was around $240. So, how did I do?


Edit: I see "A26" is stamped on the crane and on the frame under the grips. These letters look like they were done by-hand.

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Ya dun gud!

Guard those old Herrett's grips well.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:02 am 
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Popeye wrote:
Guard those old Herrett's grips well.


Can you tell me more about the grips, please? I have heard they are not original to the gun from S&W.

Are they collectable?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:38 am 
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Our security force used to carry those up until the early 90's. They sold them to the guards for about $85 a piece and I always wished I'd been working there then to get that deal. They are very nice to shoot and the price you paid is less than the current going rate I see in my area. Good pick :thumb:

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About the holster wear an bluing that is rubbed off:

Is this the kind of thing I can touch-up myself with some Cold-blue solution?
I've been reading up in it, seems if I do several passes with cold-blue and steel-wool and I can darken the areas, back to close to original finish.

I don't know if there is really all that much "collector value" in keeping original finish, or is there ???

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In my opinion, original Herrett's grips are some of the finest handgun grips ever made. They are well on the way to being collectable. I saw a 'still packaged' set go for $300.00 a while back. I do not buy them for their collectability. I buy them for their usability.

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Nice Model 10. I'm not really a wheelgun guy but I've been giving some thought to picking up one of those police surplus guns for woods/trail/anti-snake use. What I really want is a US Navy Victory model though.

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Those grips are almost exactly the grips I had on a 3" nickled Colt Detective Special I sold to my brother for his wife's gun. They are well made and make the revolver more comfortable to shoot. I'd not run +P's through the old girl, she's already been to quite a few dances and might tucker out.

Try a little 0000 steel wool and oil and don't scrub real hard to knock down the tiny rust pits. I woldn't be in a big hurry to try the cold bluing, but it's your gun. I've never had great luck trying to match and usually wished I hadn't started the procedure.

I love revolvers and think you got a pretty good deal.

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The -8 will handle .38 +P all day long. The grips are favorites of mine and you scored a great gun. It earned it's wear honestly, I wouldn't reblue it, it's part of the gun's history.

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Has anyone tried installing aftermarket grips like Pachmayr on these Model 10's?

I got a set of Pachmayr grips, and they fit the frame _but_ the grip screw goes right through where the mainspring is. I can force the screw to go in, but it is putting pressure on the mainspring.

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I have had Pach's on K frames before and never had that happen. Check the tension screw and is it an aftermarket spring?

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DeaconKC wrote:
I have had Pach's on K frames before and never had that happen. Check the tension screw and is it an aftermarket spring?


Not very familiar with these revolvers, here are some pictures.
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Is there something stupid going-on with this mainspring?

Here's me trying to install the grip, the screw would directly impact the mainspring.
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I drew a line around where the grip screw would pass-thru.

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Those aren't the correct grips for that revolver. The gap along the back of the grip frame should not have a 1/2 inch gap.

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Those aren't the correct grips for that revolver. The gap along the back of the grip frame should not have a 1/2 inch gap.


It only appears that way because I am holding the grips open to get the picture. The grips are 1 price rubber wrap-around. It took alot of hand force to hold the grips open for that picture.

If I allow them to close around the frame, then there is No gap on the blackstrap and it fits tightly. I could almost be tempted to use them without the screw, just hold then closed with vinyl tape ;) but that would be cheesy I know.

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I see what you are doing now. I know what I would do, keep the wooden ones. But I've had those grips on a few handguns in the past and those finger grooves do feel pretty good.

You might try picking a side and using a small nail or something to displace the spring to one side and run your bolt through and see if it affects the workings.

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