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Who is making .318" bullets?

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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#16 Post by VMASCIOP2000 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:22 pm

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That is strange , I have never heard of a Spanish K-98 rifle , they did make a Model 98 Mauser . . Also the Spanish never used a .318 on any rifle ever . You may want to figure out what you are doing before you go any farther .
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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#17 Post by 72 usmc » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:16 pm

The most common sterile receiver mausers with scrubbed receivers and a bent bolt are the Czech VZ 24 and the Czech K98 with winter trigger. Does your bolt match, if so look for Czech markings on the bolt such as a circle z or z, A2 or B. I assume the side rail is also sterile has no Brno markings like “CESKOSLOVENSKA ZBROJOVKA, A. S. BRNO. ” or german markings like "Mod 98'. That would be too easy. Some K98 Czech rifles with bent bolts have both sterile receivers and side rails. Look at the Czech K98 section in this link, maybe it's a Czech rifle and not really Spanish.
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It is had to tell without photos. What caliber is stamped on the receiver? I have seen Spanish mausers converted to .308 and stamped .308. Look at the stock features/attributes and small parts for clues to who actually made the rifle. I just do not know about Spanish mausers because I always avoid them. I just can not figure out which one would be sterile, have a bent bolt, and look like a k98 :think: :think:
To really muddy the water, some M43s did have bent bolts and I think they are the same length as a k98. So if it is indeed Spanish, does the bolt serial number match? Maybe it's a scrubbed M43 with a matching bent bolt or someone switched out bolts to a k98 bolt if it is mismatched. How good is the bore , like new or really worn? It slugs to .318 :think:
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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#18 Post by S.B. » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:27 pm

The only markings are the serial number and caliber on side of chamber. Bolt is same serial number as is everything numbered. Not even a crest on top of chamber?
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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#19 Post by professrh » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:34 pm

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That is all Buffalo does , alter Hornady bullets [ they are the easiest to work with ] , crush them up or squeeze them down .
Good to know. Thanks.

Not to hijack the thread, but do you have any insight about whether this crushing or squeezing does anything deleterious to bullet integrity? I hunt a lot with my milsurps, and need my projectiles to perform as expected on big hogs and deer as well as on little sling-em-over-your-shoulder piglets.

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#20 Post by OLDGUNNER » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:22 pm

Remember – No one knows more than almost an infinitesimal amount about anything. And if you are talking with someone that thinks that they do, you are talking with a fool.

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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#21 Post by slowbob2 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:59 pm

professrh wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:34 pm
slowbob2 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:02 am
That is all Buffalo does , alter Hornady bullets [ they are the easiest to work with ] , crush them up or squeeze them down .
Good to know. Thanks.

Not to hijack the thread, but do you have any insight about whether this crushing or squeezing does anything deleterious to bullet integrity? I hunt a lot with my milsurps, and need my projectiles to perform as expected on big hogs and deer as well as on little sling-em-over-your-shoulder piglets.

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Any time you alter a bullet it does not help . You will distort the jacket , core bond and the centerline . Also when fired bullets tend to alter to fit the bore , so that is 2x with a bullet that has been altered before firing . If it will be enough to cause bullet failure for hunting would depend on many things , 100 or 300 yard shot , 100 or 300 lb deer , a perfect hit or a marginal one ? I have tried many different bumped or squeezed bullets , accuracy was poor [ 4 + inch 5-shot 100 yard groups ] flyers . I have always been able to get some other load to work better . I also know EVERY number from 1 to 100 .

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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#22 Post by S.B. » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:26 pm

slowbob2, take a break buddy, slow down. You've managed to turn this thread into a real mess. All I asked is where I can buy some .318 diameter bullets.
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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#23 Post by garra » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:18 am

Google shows Midway carries some, bit pricey as these are jacketed, are you looking for lead too.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10108 ... -box-of-50

Buffalo too; https://www.buffaloarms.com/318-diamete ... -bac318170

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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#24 Post by bobvz » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:39 pm

The "bore" (ie. between the lands) diameter may be .318 but what is the groove diameter? You don't select a bullet on European bore diameter. It has to fit the groove. Any Spanish 8x57 rifle I know of namely the Model 43 shoots the 8x57 round with a .323-.324 diameter bullet.

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Re: Who is making .318" bullets?

#25 Post by S.B. » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:01 am

bpbvz, I would find it hard to measure any other way, I mean get a feel between the higher spots on something as small as a bullet with a mike or dial caliper? Could you please suggest a way to measure this? Personally, I've not worked as a machinist for seveal decades now.
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