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Usually Mauser barrels are either 23-24" or 29-30" in length... Nice for some things but one thing I really like about a short (18-20") barrel rifle is its handiness and ease to move about. The short mosins are very nice in that regard. I do know that Mausers have been made in the short carbines format with 16-18" barrels (I say "short carbine" because it seems that the 23" mauser, such as a K98k, is called a "carbine" or "short rifle").

I'm trying to develop a list of them so that I can see which one I would like to add to my collection.

G33/40 "Mountaneer" Carbine in 8x57 (seems these are rather expensive)
Spanish Fr-8 in .308 (nice rifle but really don't like the sights)
Persian/Iranian Mausers M30 and M49 in 8x57 (If they are anything like the long persians... quality for sure)
Dutch Police Carbine in 8x57 (not sure of model designation, but they all seem to be a common FN-made model that has a weird rear sight leaf that 'only' goes to 1400m).
Moroccan Police Carbine in .30-06 or .308 (FN made again from what I understand like the Dutch ones)
Vz33 Carbine (like a shortened VZ-24, are these M98 large ring?)

I assume there might be some fakes running about out there given these always seem to go for a hefty sum (except the Fr-8). Would really be cool to mount a pistol scope on a non-permanent rear sight mount.

If anyone can help me expand/correct this list, that would be helpful!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:01 am 
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1891 Engineers and cavalry carbines
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:06 am 
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The Dutch Police Carbine is a model 1948

Here's a few more off the top of my head:

1891 Argentine
1891 Spanish
1893 or 95 Spanish
1894 Swed
1895 Chilean
1895 Mexican
1916 Belgian
1922 Brazilian
1947 Iraqi
1950 Columbian
1950 Venezualen

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What about the Enfield No5 ?
M38 Swede !

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What about the Enfield No5 ?
M38 Swede !

The M38 Swede is in the 23 inch range.

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What about the Enfield No5 ?
M38 Swede !


The last time i checked the Enfield No5 wasnt a Mauser but was infact an Enfield. :D

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No , but it is a short carbine style rifle ! :think: YEH , The M38 has a 23.6 in. barrel ! :think:

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The Spanish 1916 is very short. My son has one... it feels like they had clearing houses in mind its so short!
You can find them in 7x57 or 762 Nato for $130 - $280 on gunbroker


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Yes, those FR-7 mausers are short... are they safe though in a 2-lug action though?

Does anyone know what the going rate for a Dutch Police Carbine is??

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Yes, those FR-7 mausers are short... are they safe though in a 2-lug action though?

Does anyone know what the going rate for a Dutch Police Carbine is??



If you mean the 1893 or 1916 7mm Spanish mausers - yes - they are absolutely fine in the original 7x57mm they are chambered in. In the 7.62 Nato chamberings people are more careful with the loads they use. I just saw a chopped 7x57 Spansih today for $145 in a shop here.


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Theres a rare very short barreled 7.65 Peruvian carbine on a 98 action.
If I recall correctly these had a 15 inch barrel, which would have made them illegal to import in original configuration, and a very short flip up ladder rear sight rather than the tangent sights commonly found on 98 actioned carbines.

Only saw photos of these once, no one seems to have ever sold these as surplus in the US.


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hi, i know it's not really a mauser,but what about this .
german (erfurt 1891) kar88 ,,8x57jbore(.318.5 slugged),,full stock,"butterknife" bolt handle,,,and only 171/2" barrel.
she,s my baby . :evil: :D :twisted:

have great night.adrians :thumb:

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If you run across a Persian Model 30 Short Rifle, grab it. They are excellent rifles.

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southpaw wrote:
Usually Mauser barrels are either 23-24" or 29-30" in length... Nice for some things but one thing I really like about a short (18-20") barrel rifle is its handiness and ease to move about. The short mosins are very nice in that regard. I do know that Mausers have been made in the short carbines format with 16-18" barrels (I say "short carbine" because it seems that the 23" mauser, such as a K98k, is called a "carbine" or "short rifle").

I'm trying to develop a list of them so that I can see which one I would like to add to my collection.

G33/40 "Mountaneer" Carbine in 8x57 (seems these are rather expensive)
Spanish Fr-8 in .308 (nice rifle but really don't like the sights)
Persian/Iranian Mausers M30 and M49 in 8x57 (If they are anything like the long persians... quality for sure)
Dutch Police Carbine in 8x57 (not sure of model designation, but they all seem to be a common FN-made model that has a weird rear sight leaf that 'only' goes to 1400m).
Moroccan Police Carbine in .30-06 or .308 (FN made again from what I understand like the Dutch ones)
Vz33 Carbine (like a shortened VZ-24, are these M98 large ring?)I assume there might be some fakes running about out there given these always seem to go for a hefty sum (except the Fr-8). Would really be cool to mount a pistol scope on a non-permanent rear sight mount.

If anyone can help me expand/correct this list, that would be helpful!


The VZ-33 is a "Small Ring" 98 action with a 19 inch Barrel. Image
This one is a Pseudo VZ-33 in .308 built on a KAR98AZ action.
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