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"Mummy wrapped" Enfield #4/Mk2(F) value??

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"Mummy wrapped" Enfield #4/Mk2(F) value??

#1 Post by Ray Newman » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:54 pm

I have a Lee-Enfield No 4 Mk 2(F) dated 1/1955 — PF3403XX-- last of the No 4 rifles built in the Britain at the Royal Ordnance Factory Fazakerly. Matching bayonet and scabbard.

Still in original British “mummy wrapped” protective paper covering.

Any idea as to its worth as I at "that age" when it is getting time to thin the collection. Thanks in advance....

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#2 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:14 am

The one at the Wi, one of the biggest , the Fond du Lac show sold in the first 30 min of the show at $900 last month. Never opened. Just a spot where the serial number was was cut open. I have seen two others recently: one at $1000 and the other at $1200. Open the wrap and you are down to $500-650. This was in WI. I would check out rock Island auction or gun broker past rifle sales. Prices at gun shows are into the crazy , nuts doctor & lawyer category. The good old stuff is hard to find.

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http://www.lsbauctions.com/9446/enfield ... d-1955-cr/


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https://pre98.com/shop/gone-but-not-for ... y-wrapped/
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#3 Post by RWS » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:11 am

In Tennessee I see people hawking them at gun shows and asking $800-$1,200. This with no mummy wrapping. Don't know what people are actually paying for them though.

I bought my No. 4 Mk II over 25 years ago and it is by far the most accurate Lee Enfield I've ever owned.

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#4 Post by indy1919a4 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:11 am

they prices here are about 900+ for wrapped and 600 for open mint ones..

And I do not know if I would pay more for a rifle like that wrapped up and I can never use it or see it without devaluing it..

At least the mint open ones I can treat with kid gloves and shoot now and then without devaluing it.. Also I can look it...

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#5 Post by Tommy Atkins » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:47 am

A grand or so.
Yours was destined for Ireland because of the serial numbered bayonet. The British didn't number bayonets.

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#6 Post by oddball6 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:40 pm

I fleetingly remember these guns as being for the "Irish Contract". They were pricy then. Being a shooter, I was happy with FTR No4. But, another friend got a consecutive
pair at a place called ED AGROMONTE in Queens ( I think). He still has them, his only milsurps

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#7 Post by Ernest T » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:09 pm

Going rate seems to be $1000 plus in my area (SE US). One thing I will mention is that some guys who are unwrapping these guns are finding corroded and rusted parts. I don't think the wrapping was ever intended for long term storage. On one had you want to keep it wrapped to maintain value, on the other hand it may end up as a rusty stake for some future owner.

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#8 Post by Tommy Atkins » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:52 am

The so called "Irish Contract" rifles are in the serial range PF309348 to PF 359347.
Most were never delivered and put in storage until sold as surplus.

However many other "groups" have been added to the "Irish Contract" definition, in my mind unjustly. The "FF" stamped SMLE's for example were Irish rifles but not part of the contract in any way.
We also need to remember that many mummys have been poorly or improperly stored for decades & have suffered damage because of it. Tales of being damaged or ruined by rodent gnawing peeing & droppings because they were shoved in the roof of a barn come to mind. :whistle: :violin:
Mine fortunately was treated better.
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#9 Post by Tommy Atkins » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:53 am

She was absolutely mint under the wrap.
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#10 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:01 pm

Nice looking rifle and a great cautionary tale about the wrapped ones. Now that would stink to pay extra to get damaged.. I just assumed they were wrapped for long term storage.... One reason I never liked grab bags..

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#11 Post by Tommy Atkins » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:23 pm

I think they were, but not under such poor conditions.
In a dry inhabited building with pest control, like an armory or base armory, they'd be fine, but in a leaky ignored barn it was asking for trouble IMO.

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#12 Post by Ray Newman » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:35 pm

Gents: thanks for the information. I did not think that someone would pay that much! Come Spring, it will go up for sale.

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#13 Post by Alan De Enfield » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:30 am

Ray Newman wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:35 pm
Gents: thanks for the information. I did not think that someone would pay that much! Come Spring, it will go up for sale.
Is amazing how prices differ when you are buying and when you are selling.

When buying its a case of "very difficult to get hold of these you know, I've got a list of people to phone if you don't want it" but when you are selling, "there's loads of these about, I've got another couple to look at if we cannot agree on a lower price".

The market price is what someone will pay when you are selling.

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#14 Post by Ray Newman » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:47 pm

"The market price is what someone will pay when you are selling.'
--Alan de Enfield

BINGO!!!!! That and I am not greedy. I don't believe in gouging buyers. In the past, sellers/collectors did me some favors as to what to buy and gave me very good buying prices. I just hope that when a few of my Enfields are sold, that they go to a shooter/collector who will appreciate them.

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#15 Post by Tommy Atkins » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:17 pm

I don't think you'd be "Gouging" anyone at those asking prices.
Back when I bought my first one they were going for £7.00! (It was a long time ago & pretty far away)
A few decades & an Ocean later I bought one for about $350.00.
Just 10 years ago I got a third, I paid $550 for it.
You have to factor inflation into it, at least a little.

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