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Martini Cadet .310

#1 Post by Roger Dunn » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:18 am

I did buy a Martini Cadet 310
It looks to be in good shape. All the markings are intact and all matching numbers.
The bore looks great.
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#2 Post by indy1919a4 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:32 am

Love the rifle, nice stock stamp.. Any chance of a photo of the full rifle :)

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#3 Post by 72 usmc » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:55 am

Stupid question. Where do you find original cartridges? Brass or paper case? Never seen one of those critters.
It appears to be an interesting rifle. Never seen one at gun shows.
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/7/2 ... hat-could/

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#4 Post by Rapidrob » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:02 pm

Brass can be bought from Bertram Brass, or if your lucky the bolt face has been opened to take a .32-20 cartridge.
The bullet used is a .323 heeled bullet,not a .310/.312 diameter. I had a special bullet mold made just for this cartridge.
I've been shooting my rifles for 57 years now and love them. They are very accurate out to 300 yards.
There is a ton of info on these rifle and how to load for them on the web..
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#5 Post by vandle » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:51 am

72 usmc wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:55 am
Stupid question. Where do you find original cartridges? Brass or paper case? Never seen one of those critters.
It appears to be an interesting rifle. Never seen one at gun shows.
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/7/2 ... hat-could/

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMG ... 1/?page=30#/
The Pattern 1 (Model 4) Martini Cadet (approx 9000 units) were supplied to Australia in 1909.
They are recognised by the minature version of the Martini ladder sight which
had no windage adjustment.
The 2nd Pattern (Model 4b) had the more advance sights with windage adjustment.
Approx 56,000 units was supplied to Australia in 1911 to 1912.
I have seen BSA and WW Greener manufactured items but none of the others.
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#6 Post by indy1919a4 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:12 am

I love the Kangaroo on those things.. :)

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#7 Post by indy1919a4 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:13 am

vandle wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:51 am
72 usmc wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:55 am
Stupid question. Where do you find original cartridges? Brass or paper case? Never seen one of those critters.
It appears to be an interesting rifle. Never seen one at gun shows.
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/7/2 ... hat-could/

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMG ... 1/?page=30#/
The Pattern 1 Martini Cadet (approx 6500 units) were supplied to Australia.
They are recognised by the minature version of the Martini ladder sight which
had no windage adjustment.
The 2nd Pattern had the more advance sights with windage adjustment.
Approx 60,000 units was supplied to Australia.
I have seen BSA and WW Greener manufactured items but none of the others.
(I will try and confirm the numbers)
Do you see alot of the ammo for these down in Australia still???

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#8 Post by vandle » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:38 am

You can buy the brass and the pills locally and reload your own.
There is no commercially manufactured ammo although some boutique
ammo guys do supply rounds ready to go
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#9 Post by vandle » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:45 am

indy1919a4 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:12 am
I love the Kangaroo on those things.. :)
They do look cool
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#10 Post by Roger Dunn » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:20 am

I bought it off of Gun Broker.
The brass I made from 32-20 brass. Shortend and trimmed the rim .020. Fits perfect.

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#11 Post by Roger Dunn » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:25 am

I used a lee 8mm bullet mold. Milled the top down to make 135 gr bullet.
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#12 Post by indy1919a4 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:41 am

Nice rifle Roger, seeing your Martini makes me want to watch Zulu tonight. . Hey one minor suggestion, Next time you take your photos like that Try using a non-white background cover, like a gray or light brown color. Now it may work different for you, but I have found it helps bring out the details of the object, the white sometime reflects the light and can over power the object. Hey try it out and let me know what you think.

Again a cool rifle, many thanks

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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#13 Post by Rapidrob » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:13 pm

I will be holding a 200 yard off hand only match for the August Match. I will be using my .310 Cadet with as issued barrel sights.
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#14 Post by vandle » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:09 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:13 pm
I will be holding a 200 yard off hand only match for the August Match. I will be using my .310 Cadet with as issued barrel sights.
Australian Service Rifle Competitions, specifically for Martini Cadets are held regularly. There are State and National Titles that are held every year.
Generally held up to 100yds
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Re: Martini Cadet .310

#15 Post by Rapidrob » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:11 am

Here are two of my rifles that are still in military configuration. The rifle without the sling was my first Martini Cadet I got in 1964. It cost me 1/2 of my paper-route pay check....3 bucks. There was no ammo. I learned to make brass and reload because of this rifle.
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Here is the mold. He makes them to 100% of the original Kynoch design which I feel outshouts the other makers bullets.
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Here is a line up of bullet types I have tried over the decades. Top cartridge is the true .323 bullet but powder coated to .324. It shoots very well.
2ND is the RCBS bullet dip lubed. It is not a heeled bullet but does OK out to 100 yards.
3RD is the Armory cast heeled bullet. Lubed and sized to .323. It is the best shooting bullet I have shot other than original factory ammo. It is very accurate at 200 meters and is still kicking butt at 300 meters.
I'm using a canalure tool to do a roll crimp right at the end of the heel.
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Everyone has their own loads thy like. I prefer a slower burning pistol powder out of my rifles. I have won many matches over the decades with my first Cadet rifle as well as done some fine hunting with it in the 60's.
I have several of these rifles in all sorts of calibers as well.
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