.410 Enfield SMLE shot gun

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Re: .410 Enfield SMLE shot gun

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72 usmc wrote:
Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:51 am
Do you have an example you could add from your collection?
No - the one I had has 'long gone' and been replaced by a Savage No4 Mk1/3 in 410 calibre.
As you can see the No4 Mk1* has been 'struck out' and (almost invisible) has No4 Mk1/3 etched above and to the right along with the FTR markings, it was subsequently 'bored-out' to 410 calibre (modern 2 1/2" plastic cases)
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thanks for sharing with us.

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There's a good chance I missed this, but I have one of the No. 1, Mk. 3's that was rechambered for 3" 410. Is it safe to shoot the Musket rounds in it, or is it strictly a modern 410 gun now?

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The plastic modern .410 is slightly larger than the brass shells. I am not sure how much expansion will occur to the case due to the enlarged chamber walls. I would just fire .410 slug ammo.
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Thanks

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bump to change headings i have not seen any shot gun or grenade launching Enfields at any shows for 2 years ??
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I bought two at a gun show December 2017 for $350 a piece

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There's been a pretty good looking Enfield grenade launcher rifle for sale at one of my local gun shops for quite a while, but the price isn't cheap ($599 IIRC). I haven't been by in several months, so it could have sold by now. I've got several .410 conversions, but they've all been further modified to accept modern ammo, so I'm still searching for the unmodified .410 conversion that uses the original brass cased shells.


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It seems Libertytreecollectors has found a few crates of this .410 ammo. It seems harder to find nowadays. :shock: :shock: The price is a far cry from the $49 it was around 2014/15. Times have changed :doh: :doh: :doh: $140 a case :roll:
Not sure how fast a mover it will be:
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=
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72 usmc wrote:It seems Libertytreecollectors has found a few crates of this .410 ammo. It seems harder to find nowadays. :shock: :shock: The price is a far cry from the $49 it was around 2014/15. Times have changed :doh: :doh: :doh: $140 a case :roll:
Not sure how fast a mover it will be:
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=
Wow! That’s one hell of a price increase!


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These a fun to shoot muskets. I too did an article with range report on how well these muskets shoot. When launching a .40 S&W bullet at 50 yards hitting a man sized target in the chest with every shot was very easy to do.
Thousands and thousands of post were lost as you know. I will try to find the photos of what I posted those many years ago.
These Muskets are just so much fun to fire! A round of Skeet will get many eyes wide open.( no doubles of course)
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Libertytreecollectors just listed a British made SMLE rifle converted in India to .410. It is not GRI marked.
see https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=
note: In Jan 2020, the source is inactive, but the pictures were posted below as this was a for sale item where pictures do not remain.

This example is an actual original brass case chambering, not one converted by Century to modern paper .410 shells. The price is a wee bit steep at $525 :? I can not make out the Import mark?
Serial number #M14376 This offering is for the pictured Enfield No1 .410 Gauge Shotgun. Maker marked from the British LSA Arsenals in 1916 and converted into shotgun configuration by RFI India in 1931 for conscript or guard use.... Chambered in .410 Gauge (proprietary and not the modern .410 sporting) the bore is brite and smooth, slight bulge/ring 2 inches from the muzzle.
I posted a few of Libertytrees pictures because when sold the pictures go down. A nice example except for the barrel bulge & crazy price :violin: heck, if it was $150 i'd buy it. :doh: :mrgreen:
These are reposts of libertytree pictures (source)
376No1.1.jpg
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376No1.11.jpg
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More pictures of the Libertytreecollectors rifle as a nice example:
376No1.2.JPG
376No1.16.jpg
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More pictures of the same rifle. Thank You, to Libertytree for such nice pictures. They are just too good to let disappear after it is sold. What a nice example. :shifty:
376No1.10.jpg
376No1.13.jpg
376No1-1.11.jpg
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72 usmc wrote:Libertytreecollectors just listed a British made SMLE rifle converted in India to .410. It is not GRI marked.
see https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=

This example is an actual original brass case chambering, not one converted by Century to modern paper .410 shells. The price is a wee bit steep at $525 :? I can not make out the Import mark?
Serial number #M14376 This offering is for the pictured Enfield No1 .410 Gauge Shotgun. Maker marked from the British LSA Arsenals in 1916 and converted into shotgun configuration by RFI India in 1931 for conscript or guard use.... Chambered in .410 Gauge (proprietary and not the modern .410 sporting) the bore is brite and smooth, slight bulge/ring 2 inches from the muzzle.
I posted a few of Libertytrees pictures because when sold the pictures go down. A nice example except for the barrel bulge & crazy price :violin: heck, if it was $150 i'd buy it. :doh: :mrgreen:
These are reposts of libertytree pictures (source)
376No1.1.jpg
376No1.JPG
376No1.3.jpg
376No1.7.jpg
376No1.11.jpg
I really want one of these that hasn’t been modified for regular.410 shells, but I don’t want to pay that much for the privilege of owning one!


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