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Hunter_aka_Scotty
 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:45 am 
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The P39 is the factory mark and serial number. The stencil on the front is for the signal corps. The helmet is post war with what appears to be wartime gray-green underpaint. Probably a wartime manufactured helmet issued post-WW2. The double row stitching on the liner shows the liner to be manufactured post-WW2



The stitching on the liner manufactured post-WW2 was only in the form of a "Z" (but this type stitching was also used during the war)
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all components of granbuff's helmet was manufactured in wartime period but as was the case for most helmets after the war was repainted in kaki colour; the stencil is an ugly fake (remove it and it will be a good postwar reconditioned helmet)


Hm, I will check my M33 book but I recall the double row stitching to be a post-war pattern. Large pattern "Z" was wartime and small pattern "z" is post war?

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 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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These are pages from a very interesting book that show the various types of war time liner
(If you need to translate ask me)
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 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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Actually......... That was the book I was talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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Hunter_aka_Scotty wrote:
Actually......... That was the book I was talking about.

ops :oops:

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garand76 wrote:
Hunter_aka_Scotty wrote:
Actually......... That was the book I was talking about.

ops :oops:



Don't feel bad! You saved me the trouble of finding it off the shelf and correcting myself! Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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late production
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Italian Air Force
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Police
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Bersaglieri (an infantry unit)
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ONU mission Lebanon 1982
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corps of bridge engeneers
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commander of infantry unit
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infantry
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medical officer
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tank unit (not use inside a tank)
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field artillery
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mountain troops (alpini) signal corps
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fire brigade of a factory or base
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sorry I can't find pics of mine. But these 2 are near exactly what I have. but mine no longer has the chin strap or any of the leather liner. M34 civilan model I was told. But I know the decals are for the 'feldpolizi', which is appropriate, a s I colect WW 2 militaria, and cop stuff. over 8000 police patches, and 800 badges, wish i could post pics of them all.


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These are my non italian helmets
M1 utilized immediatly after the war by italian air force
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a postwar m1 (probably utilized from other NATO country)
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A worldwar m1
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British worldwar MKII
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German m40 found in a field in south Italy
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Spanish z42 (bad copy of german helmet)
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Vopos (DDR) helmet
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French helmet
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Hunter_aka_Scotty
 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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WOW! Your French F1 1978 is in fantastic shape. Mine is covered in dents where they used it to drive tent stakes or something.

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I picked up what was advertised as a "Soviet Paratrooper" helmet at the WWII museum in New Orleans a couple of months ago. But for all I know, it could be a Somilian brain bucket. My friends don't know any more about it than I do, so it will go fine with my Mosin-Nagants. :D


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It's a Czech M1953. Not Russian nor ever used by Paratroopers.

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Hunter_aka_Scotty wrote:
It's a Czech M1953. Not Russian nor ever used by Paratroopers.



Thank you! This came from Stephen Ambrose's museum............... (enough said) :o
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It's a Czech M1953. Not Russian nor ever used by Paratroopers.



Thank you! This came from Stephen Ambrose's museum............... (enough said) :o



Frightening to know museums so mis-label things still. Really makes you wonder! I recall getting into an argument with one guy who was giving a tour at a military museum who claimed a German gas mask canister was a mess tin, till finally the curator came up and told the guy I was right.

I hope you didn't pay too much for that helmet, they never sell for more than 25$.

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My son's meager collection. We're working on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Helmet collectors!
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It's a great start! :thumb:

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