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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Anyone have any idea if the Japanese marked the stocks of type 38 rifles with a large star cartouche? Almost looks communist.. The star has some marking inside it, but it's unclear if it's a kana or what. I can't tell.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:59 pm 
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Marking on stocks are usually indicative of a non-firing trainer rifle...We need pics for sure!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:22 am 
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Not the greatest pics with my cell..

Cartouche, left side of stock.
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A little better.
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An interesting ding in the right side of the fore end. Almost looks like a bullet hole.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Bump...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:24 pm 
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definitely chinese markings on a captured rifle


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:07 pm 
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Any idea what the markings are? Unit marking? Army marking? Maybe something interesting like a koumintang mark? :) My first guess was Chinese, just because of the communist connotations of the star. Is there any kind of resource I can look at, or is this information just not available?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:11 pm 
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info on these markings just isn't out there as no concentrated effort has been made to catalog them. these are typical markings found on the chinese imports in the 70s and 80s.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:17 pm 
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I need a few parts for it. The consensus seems to be Numrich?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:20 pm 
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depends on what parts you need. numeric has always been a rip off in my opinion with repro parts, excessive shipping rates, and a Urine poor parts diagram that seems to have parts form both 99s and 38s on the same rifle in the diagram!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:38 am 
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Specifically, I need the screw that holds the front of the magazine floor plate to the stock, and I need the "hammer". The rounded, knurled knob (mum) at the rear of the bolt. I'm sure there's probably more to the mechanism, but since i'm not too familiar with the Arisaka, i'm not %100 sure. My guess is that someone used this for a parts gun. I'm not looking to shoot this, I bought it to be an interesting wall hanger. I'd just like to have it somewhat complete. lol.. Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:53 am 
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the screw should be easy enough to come by. the safety is a little more difficult to locate. do you have the firing pin and spring inside the bolt? if not, you will need those too. cost for all of those parts can reach $100 or more so it may not pay to put this one back together.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:57 pm 
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I have this on my type 38 carbine and I was wondering if anyone recognizes it, can translate it, or know someone who can. I am sorry for the quality of the pics, which is why I took so many...maybe piece them together.....Thanks..Bill :D
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