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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:42 pm 
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Hello,
Here are pictures of a Persian Saddle Ring Carbine I obtained. Would appreciate comments on condition and if the front sight could be original. Thanx for any assistance.

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You'll love to hate that little carbine. The recoil will shake your teeth loose. The front sight looks nothing like the one I had on mine. Yours looks like a replacement from a sporting rifle.

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Howdy,
Yes it's a bit of a handfull. Never shot it of the bench. Hoping to get some more info on it from Persian afficianados. Does the front site base look unmodified? I'd like to get speculation if this is Czech or Iranian made. It appears as if all the finish is the same, purchased it in the early 70's. Would also like to pick up a correct cleaning rod, bayonet and sling eventually.
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It looks like the model 30 (Czech made) but somewhere along the line the front side protector wings have been ground off. If you have the dimensions I can check it against my reference book.

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Very nice carbine! :thumb: Btw not to hijack the thread or anything but does anyone know where to find these carbines and how much they go for?Id love to get one but I never see any for sale.


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Hello edhoffer,
I'll try to get dimensions for it. If the wings were ground it was done prior to the current bluing (30 years old) and it doesn't show. I have seen Mauser's without the wings, possibly even a Persian, can't recall well. The sight blade has a brass dot so it must be a commercial. Is this considered a 98/22 or a 98/29. Need to find a source to figure these things out, with help from you's expert guys.

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Haven't seen any myself.
What would be a not too expensive full size 98 style mauser, good quality, not necessarily matching, for shooting?
Thanks for the responses.


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If it's what I think it is, it's the model 30

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I've read the sticky at the top of the forum and did not notice the Model 30. If it's not too much trouble, how can I find out more about that model? Thanks for your replies!


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Persian Model 1317....

Lenth 37.99
Wt 8.33
Barrel 17.91

My reference books don't give any other information other than it's short and clunky LOL.

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Thanks Ed for the research. Do you think it is worth restoring or just put a scope on it and use it for shooting?
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Personally, I would leave it as is, or use a scout model scope base. If it is the model 30, it's the first one I've seen other than in books, and since there is so little information on it, who knows about the front sight ears, perhaps all did not have them.

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That's definitely a Model 30 Persian carbine. They all had sight ears like the Model 98/29 long Mauser. Yours have been ground off and the front sight replaced. It's still a fairly rare rifle. Recoil is a bear but they are good shooters.

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Thanks edhoffer & TommyT,
I don't think it will kick as hard as the .338 Win. Magnum I sold! Can any of you experienced guys tell me an easy way to get the front band (hold fronts of the stock and the handguard together) off without damage. I haven't had her apart for 30 some odd years and I don't want to damage it. Seems stuck!
On another note, is there anyone you can recommend for a cleaning rod and maybe a sling. Also do you know of anyone worthwile to restore the front sight to original specs? Thanks again for the assistance.
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Also do you know of anyone worthwile to restore the front sight to original specs?
The sight ears were milled with the barrel (one piece) and not a clamp on like the VZ.24. Once they are ground off (which they were) there is no way to get them back. Not sure without a close look but you may be able to put a VZ.24 front sight protector on it.[/b]


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It was mentioned that the front sight and base were a unit that slid onto a stepped barrel. Can anyone confirm or explain how this might be done. Maybe I could have the unit removed and replaced.


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