1928 Tula 5 line 91-30 worth $200.00?

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1928 Tula 5 line 91-30 worth $200.00?

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All matching except bolt with a good bore and stock. No cleaning rod but it does have the sling. I only collect Finn's or Finn captures but if this 5 line is more collectable than a plain jane orange snot covered russian refurb, I might just jump on it.

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Even a typical, common refurb, non-matching, would likely fetch at least $200 in shootable condition, probably at least $250.

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Is the stock in the original finish? Cracks? The missing cleaning rod is $25 to replace? Does it have a Tula marked bolt? Lots of factors...
see this 1928Tula http://www.ponyexpressfirearms.com/prod ... ched-used/

If it's as nice as this above rifle, grab it at $200. A fair deal.

I agree, they are trying to get $250-300 for a common 91/30 that is a mess of line outs or restamped garbage. Check the bore most are really pitted. Does it have a nasty import mark on the receiver or a small one on the barrel? Under the barrel is better than the bill board. Is the receiver stampings nice, clear& deep. Or is it sanded over during the rebuild. If original, no import mark, no rebuild grab it. Too bad it is not an M91 dragoon.

some ideas but dated prices from 2011: source https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/1928-rus ... 23716.html
Rifles such as yours (assuming it is an M91/30) are commonly referred to as "ex-dragoon" rifles, as the early M91/30 rifles were often made from converted M91 Dragoon rifles. They are slightly more rare that the run-of-the-mill 91/30.

There are several features you'll need to look for (again, photos of markings, etc. would really help here):

1. What arsenal built the rifle (does it have a star, a triangle, or an arrow on the receiver or barrel)? Are all the arsenal marks on all parts the same, or are they mixed?

2. Does the barrel or receiver have minimal stamping, or is there prominent writing present?

3. Is there a Russian eagle stamp on the receiver,or has it been replaced by a Soviet hammer and sickle?

4. Is there a "Ka3" stamp visible anywhere?

5. What type wood stock does it have (laminated, hardwood, does the stock appear to be "spliced" )?

6. Is there an "MO" stamp present?

There are other features, also (does it have filled-in holes on the top or side of the receiver, indicating an ex-sniper, for instance) that are good to know.

Also something to check: Your rifle may actually be older than 1928. I have an M91/30 stamped 1924, but when I disassembled it, I discoved a 1907 date on the underside of the tang, revealing the year the receiver was originally made. Many Ex-Dragoons will carry their M91 production date on the tang. If you have the wherewithal,and can take the rifle apart without damaging it, it's worth checking for an earlier date.

As far as a value, it's difficult to determine without knowing exactly what you have. An average ex-dragoon sells in the $130-180 range. If you something exceptional, or with rare markings, that price could easily be doubled or tripled.
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So Bill, did you buy it? Any pictures of the crest?
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Yes I did 72. I didn't feel it was worth $200.00 though because of the bore condition, ie, dark with strong lands and no counter bore and a line out, re-numbered floor plate so I offered $150.00 and the seller accepted. I'll post pics tomorrow after the sun comes up.

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Nice looking rifle, Congrats.

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Very clear & distinct crest . A winner. Is the bolt body Tula stamped?
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That is a nice example, good score
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72 usmc wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:50 pm
Very clear & distinct crest . A winner. Is the bolt body Tula stamped?
All I see are are three tiny inspection stamps on the body but the bolt head is Tula star stamped. I also ordered a cleaning rod as I hate incomplete rifles.

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Looks like a deal in my book. Was the stock redone or more original? It looks like a Finnish stock color. Did it have an import mark?
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Given how much this platform has jumped in price over the last few years, you got a fair deal on a great looking gun.

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72 usmc wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:24 pm
Looks like a deal in my book. Was the stock redone or more original? It looks like a Finnish stock color. Did it have an import mark?
Russian stock with a refurb stamp on the butt and a tiny CAI stamp on the barrel.

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Thanks, in WI you would be hard pressed to find a complete, nice, $150 Mosin. Prices are about double that for common junk. Fantastic deal. And no bill board import on the receiver is a big plus. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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If I may ask, what makes this rifle a "5 Line?" Everything I have read suggests the mosin was manufactured as a 3-Line rifle. Was there a 5 line version?
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