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M95 Markings

#1 Post by Greyhawk » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:29 pm

I'm using this to see if I got things set up right for posting pictures :D .

I'm sure most of the marks on this barrel were worn off or something... I'm not finding any acceptance marks, what I do see is a crowned "T" and a circled Cyrillic "F" (phi).

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According to hungariae.com, 'T' Crowned = Yugoslavian Nitro proof mark. On a Budapest barrel? The barrel and receiver have matching numbers.

I can't find anything on the other mark, any thoughts?

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Re: M95 Markings

#2 Post by 72 usmc » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:57 pm

I do not see the picture. Just a box with a check mark.
:arrow: :idea: :idea: Check this old sticky for posting a photo through the forum method.
viewtopic.php?f=79&t=2203&start=15
best to just have a photo on the computer desk top and select it from the desk top. and use attachments.
See the bottom of page 2 in the link shown above. Hope that helps.

I assume you have seen this info:
You saw these I see:
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann9530.htm
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95.htm


https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... annlichers

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/sho ... p?t=694573

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1902

You have this book ? :arrow: :arrow: :idea: Mannlicher Military Rifles, by Paul Scarlata 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_LngEQhcXM



Some have the date acc. marks, others it was scrubbed. No idea why. I always purchased beat ones in their original stock with slings and no import marks. But I remember later imports of the carbines had missing date codes and refinished stocks and were rearsenal blued and electro penciled serial numbers on the bolt rather than stamped. most off these were 8x56R rather than 8x50R.
Here is one of the rearsenal like new M95 carbine dogs:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=131
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Re: M95 Markings

#3 Post by Greyhawk » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:43 pm

Okay, yup... I think I got it now... Apparently, I also have to resize the photos off my phone...

The Calguns link was new to me. There's some good info there.
I haven't seen the book, but I may have to look into it.

There's a serial # of 1220E on the receiver, but no matching # on the barrel - it's apparently been scrubbed off, along with the acceptance marks. All that's visible is the Crowned "T" and the circled Cyrillic "F". The plugs installed in the top of the receiver are there because someone had it drilled and tapped for a scope mount...
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There is, however, a 3-digit # on the underside and it is matching.
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This barrel doesn't have the front sight dovetailed into the barrel - it's banded.
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I'm just hoping it's still 8x50. I don't see anything that would suggest otherwise...

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Re: M95 Markings

#4 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:11 pm

S or H would for sure indicate a conversion to 8x56R. Here is a quick way to test in the house. See link.

At a range you can try a live round for fit. Place an 8x56R (preferably an dummy round) into the chamber. If the cartridge rim fits and bottoms out on the chamber face, the rifle barrel is chambered in 8x56R. If the round protrudes about 1//4 inch above the chamber face, the chamber is 8x50R. Note a 8x50R is shorter and will chamber in both barrels / rifles. Use the easy to find 8x56R round, it chambers only in the 8x56R barrel due to its longer size.
Most likely you have the harder to find ammo rifle in original 8x50R chambering. That baby may have been rebarreled? Do the test. I can not see the index alignment mark for the barrel. Is it present and aligned? This index mark is found on the top of the barrel/receiver and should be clearly visible. It appears like a tool damaged the lower hex??????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjCyV8XArqo
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Re: M95 Markings

#5 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:58 pm

Photos Spare barrel from M95, long rifle, Steyr matching rifle 8x56R conversion indicated by "S"
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Re: M95 Markings

#6 Post by junkbug » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:17 pm

To the original poster, I believe that is a barrel newly made by Serbia after WWI. Your pictures show the Serbian marks. These were as far as I know completely remanufactured weapons using salvaged parts and new barrels.

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Re: M95 Markings

#7 Post by 72 usmc » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:28 am

To the original poster, I believe that is a barrel newly made by Serbia after WWI. Your pictures show the Serbian marks. These were as far as I know completely remanufactured weapons using salvaged parts and new barrels.
Junkbug, Nailed it :clap: :clap: Great information and pointer. see http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95Se.htm
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Greyhawk's rifle
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Greyhawk does your receiver markings indicate M95 or M95M? M95M = 8mm Mauser conversion
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Re: M95 Markings

#8 Post by junkbug » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:23 pm

I have a Serbian barreled M95 carbine in 8x50r. Mine has a Budapest receiver, carbine rear sight and a banded front sight. It is perhaps my favorite.

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