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1912 Chilean Mauser Short Rifle rechambered for7.62 NATO

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1912 Chilean Mauser Short Rifle rechambered for7.62 NATO

#1 Post by Bear » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:20 pm

Does anyone know the length of the cleaning rod for the above rifle? Also is it exactly interchangeable with any other rod. And, does anyone have a source for original or repro? Thanks to all.

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#2 Post by capt14k » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:32 pm

Should be the same as the original rod. Original Rod was matching to the rifle. I can measure one of mine tomorrow. Mine are still in 7mm but length should be the same.

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#3 Post by Charles Lipscomb » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:41 pm

This will not help you will the length but it is a source.
You can run a straightened coat hanger into your stock for a measurement.

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#4 Post by Bear » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:59 pm

capt14k that would be great.
Charles I saw the Chilean M95 on that site but not the 1912. I have a .17 cal cleaning I can stick in there. Great idea. Will compare that with what capt14k comes up with!!!! Thanks guys!!

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#5 Post by Rapidrob » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:38 am

I just measured both of my rifles.
The short rifle's cleaning rod is 9 3/4" long
The long rifle is 15 5/8"
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#6 Post by capt14k » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:21 am

The cleaning rod in my short is also 15 5/8" but it is not matching so it could be from a long, but if it was shorter than 11" it would not thread in.




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#7 Post by Bear » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:08 am

Thanks everyone so much!!! I’m going with the 9 3/4”.Its great to have such good people so willing to help on something like this!!!!

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#8 Post by capt14k » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:09 am

How does the 9 3/4" thread in?

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#9 Post by 72 usmc » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:00 pm

I hope the following observations will help others who are
contemplating collecting one of the Steyr manufactured Model 1912 Mauser
rifles (98 Mauser variant) with Chilean crest.

There are 4 variations available.

1) Rifle with 29 inch barrel, 7mm
2) Rifle with 29 inch barrel, 7.62 Nato converted
3) Short Rifle with 21.5 inch barrel, 7mm
4) Short Rifle with 23 inch barrel, 7.62 Nato converted
also
5) Possible, but not confirmed, Carbine with 18(?) inch barrel.
source: http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/rm1912.htm

Your best bet is to have a stiff wire like used on model airplanes and place it in the hole then mark it at the point you want it to end then measure the wire and hope to find an original cleaning rod that fits. There appears to be 3 sizes to the rifle barrels on short 1912 chilean mausers: 21.5, 23, and possibly 18 inches.
I only own the 1895 model in original caliber-7mm. I have seen these Spanish cleaning rods in 17 1/4", 14 1/4", and 10 1/4". Rapidrobs actual measurements on a 1912 are 9 3/4" (short) and 15 5/8"(Long) so there are all sorts of Spanish size cleaning rods??? That is pretty crazy? :doh: :doh: :doh:

Then there is a model 1912-61, 7.62 nato- 1912 short rifle that uses a 10 inch rod that does not fit the 7mm short rifle-too fat. And I wonder how many of these have the same tread size and pitch. Lots of luck with that $100 special. :oops: :doh:
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#10 Post by capt14k » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:46 pm

72 usmc wrote:
I hope the following observations will help others who are
contemplating collecting one of the Steyr manufactured Model 1912 Mauser
rifles (98 Mauser variant) with Chilean crest.

There are 4 variations available.

1) Rifle with 29 inch barrel, 7mm
2) Rifle with 29 inch barrel, 7.62 Nato converted
3) Short Rifle with 21.5 inch barrel, 7mm
4) Short Rifle with 23 inch barrel, 7.62 Nato converted
also
5) Possible, but not confirmed, Carbine with 18(?) inch barrel.
source: http://randyrick.us/AustrianFirearms/rm1912.htm

Your best bet is to have a stiff wire like used on model airplanes and place it in the hole then mark it at the point you want it to end then measure the wire and hope to find an original cleaning rod that fits. There appears to be 3 sizes to the rifle barrels on short 1912 chilean mausers: 21.5, 23, and possibly 18 inches.
I only own the 1895 model in original caliber-7mm. I have seen these Spanish cleaning rods in 17 1/4", 14 1/4", and 10 1/4". Rapidrobs actual measurements on a 1912 are 9 3/4" (short) and 15 5/8"(Long) so there are all sorts of Spanish size cleaning rods??? That is pretty crazy? :doh: :doh: :doh:
Take the information on that site with a grain of salt. The matching numbers part is completely wrong. Matching numbers on both long and short are barrel, receiver, stock, floorplate, trigger guard, rear sight, rear sight slider, bolt arm, safety, bolt shroud, and cleaning rod. Both my 1912 long and short do have mismatched cleaning rods. They are both 15 3/8". There is an additional rare barrel variation and that is the 7mm Mauser SIG barrel. Which I have on my 1912 Short. This barrel is blued and they also blued the receiver at the time of barrel change. This is similar to the 7.62x51NATO barrel change. All numbers match on my 1912 Short except safety, bolt shroud and cleaning rod. Oddly these same numbers do not match on my 1912 Long and 1895 Long.

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Re: 1912 Chilean Mauser Short Rifle rechambered for7.62 NATO

#11 Post by 72 usmc » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:14 pm

Seems Classic dumped a bunch of these all lacking slings and cleaning rods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jubczxDiMLI
You see some 1912s at gun shows generally in pretty beat condition.
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