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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:42 pm 
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After several years of thinking about, talking about, looking at and reading about Krags, I finally bought my first one. The seller said it was found wrapped in a blanket in the attic of an old house that was to be torn down. Description as follows:
1898 Krag rifle, serial #163603.
Full length rifle stock, top hand guard missing, no cartouches. Stock has been sanded and then put away, with no finish. Stock solid with only one small crack near the left side magazine cover.
Most blueing worn, some surface rust, especially where metal joins wood. May be some pitting there, but won't know for sure till disassembled. I will attack the rust with 0000 steel wool and WD40 and hope for the best.
Butt plate and lower sling swivel missing.
Top sling swivel and barrel band intact, also stacking swivel.
Front sight okay.
Front barrel band and bayonet lug intact.
Rear sight ladder flips up, but the screw for the sliding range adjustment bar and the bar itself is frozen at the top and the ladder lays down on the 600 yard position. I have it soaking in some WD40, but need some PB Blaster, which will break damn near anything loose.
Action as smooth as butter, and all moving parts function. Trigger pull crisp. Magazine door a tad stiff, but cleaning and lubing should help. Close inspection under magnification of the bolt lug and surrounding area shows no cracks. That's a relief!
A bronze brush and some Hoppe's No. 9 through the bore, followed by patches revealed a bright and shiney bore with no pitting. Muzzle gauges at about 1.75 on my .30 cal. CMP gauge.
One small cut outside the muzzle about 1/32nds of an inch from the end that looks like a hack saw cut. I can take care of that with my muzzle crowning tools.
I think I did okay for $500. A butt plate and lower sling swivel and screws are on the way, also a 3 piece cleaning rod. I'm also shopping for a top hand guard and oiler.
I will finish the stock in Chesnut Ridge Military Stock stain and tung oil. I don't know whether or not to bother with having the metal re-blued. Any advice anyone wants to offer will be welcome.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:10 am 
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Greg,

Need to see pictures. Where in Virginia are you located?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:12 am 
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You may wish to consider BLO instead of tung oil for that original look, but it's your rifle.

Which type of rear sight do you have? A ladder type could be a '92, '96 or 1901. You will want to be careful to buy the correct handguard to match the rear sight. A reproduction handguard is your best bet.

A good bore is a plus!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:04 am 
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I will finish the stock in Chesnut Ridge Military Stock stain and tung oil. I don't know whether or not to bother with having the metal re-blued. Any advice anyone wants to offer will be welcome.


NO!!! :naughty:

Keep that finish original. A refinished rifle may look nice but it has no soul.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:34 am 
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madcratebuilder wrote:
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I will finish the stock in Chesnut Ridge Military Stock stain and tung oil. I don't know whether or not to bother with having the metal re-blued. Any advice anyone wants to offer will be welcome.


NO!!! :naughty:

Keep that finish original. A refinished rifle may look nice but it has no soul.


Previous owner already sanded it, so it needs some finish.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:24 pm 
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Okay, here's the "before" rust clean-up and stock refinish photos.


http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... /Krag1.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... /Krag2.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... /Krag3.jpg

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http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... /Krag8.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... /Krag9.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... Krag10.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... Krag11.jpg

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... Krag12.jpg


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:36 pm 
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Here's the "after" photos. It took a lot of scrubbing with Kroil and bronze wool and stainless steel pot scubbers to remove the rust, but it looks a damn sight better than it used to. All that's left to do is blue the new muzzle crown that I cut to get rid of the muzzle damage. The muzzle wear gauge reading went from 1.75 to 1.50 after I cut the new crown, so I must have gotten rid of some cleaning rod damage in the process. I also put a 1902 sight on it, as the 1896 sight that it was found with would not permit the installation of the repro 1898 handguard. Now to load some ammo and take it to the range.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... 003769.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:06 am 
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Hey Greg H,

After all of that "elbow grease", TLC and a few parts you restored that old war horse back to her original beauty. Something to be proud of. Nice work on the crown. Looking forward to the range report.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:48 am 
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Greg H. in Virginia wrote:
stainless steel pot scubbers to remove the rust,



Ouch, this part, along with the stock re-finish made me cringe. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:36 pm 
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Well, the rust was making me cringe, and the SS pot scubbers worked better than the bronze wool on the heaviest rust and did not damage the remaining bluing. I also scrubbed out the rust pits with a hand-held brass bristle brush, and applied a light coat of oil to the barrel and receiver before re-assembling.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:02 am 
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You hurt the originality but it should be a good shooter. You discovered that each style sight needs it's own style hand guard. Did you consider counter-boring for the crown damage?

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