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New (to me) Ljungman

#1 Post by Calfed » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:36 pm

Last month I saw a listing for a Egyptian Hakim...only I noticed it was a Ljungman.

https://hibid.com/lot/57243306/egyptian-hakim-7-9mm

I went by my FFL today and got a few crppy pics of it before starting the 10 day cooling off period. Stock has a few dents and gouges, metal looks good.

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#2 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:28 am

They are great rifles. They have an adjustable gas regulator.
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#3 Post by dmg4 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:41 pm

Yes, the Ljungman does have a nasty bite, as well as a bark from the muzzle brake.

Rob: if yours has an adjustable gas valve, is it one that was added later? I've not seen one, and mine (1945 AG42b) is not adjustable.
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#4 Post by dmg4 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:54 am

If anyone needs a copy of the "owners manual", a pdf is attached.

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#5 Post by Rapidrob » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:29 am

I made mine from scratch.
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#6 Post by Calfed » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:30 pm

Thanks, Guys. I was glad to get the Ljungman for Hakim prices.

I have a couple of other Ljungmans that I got years ago. One of them was when I was on that trip where I visited you, Rob (2010?). I bought it for $500 from a guy in Albuquerque who had cleaned up at an estate sale. He had another one that he didn't want to part with. Also bought a K-31and 100 rounds of Norma 7.5x55 ammo from the guy for $150. He wouldn't tell me what he paid for the items, but implied that he had doubled his money on the items that he sold to me. He had a bunch of real nice stuff from that estate sale. Ahh, good times back when I had a C&R.

I've got two sons who are shooters, so I really need three :)

Thanks for the owner's manual, dmg

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#7 Post by Calfed » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:13 pm

Finally brought the Ljungman home and looked it over.

Metal is in pretty good condition, Stock has a few dings and gouges.
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The bore looks pretty good, but the stock disc shows a "3"

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#8 Post by Rapidrob » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:58 am

Don't get hung up on the stock disk "number" for bore condition. I have read many post from new owners that they praise the rifle because the stock disk was marked "1" and the other marks showing no wear. How long ago was that disk stamped? How many rounds have been fired through it since then? How many owners who didn't clean the bore properly? How many times has it been mishandled at the range/field? The stock disk mean nothing toady other than eye-candy of a used to be issued rifle.
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Re: New (to me) Ljungman

#9 Post by Calfed » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:39 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:58 am
Don't get hung up on the stock disk "number" for bore condition. I have read many post from new owners that they praise the rifle because the stock disk was marked "1" and the other marks showing no wear. How long ago was that disk stamped? How many rounds have been fired through it since then? How many owners who didn't clean the bore properly? How many times has it been mishandled at the range/field? The stock disk mean nothing toady other than eye-candy of a used to be issued rifle.
Shoot the rifle with a known good load. Either it shoots the flies off of the edge of a playing card,or you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it.
Thanks, Rob...good advie and I'll post a range report when I can.

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Re: New (to me) Ljungman

#10 Post by jmcdude » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:59 pm

I have had Ljungmans and two Hakim's over the past years. Very different approach to semi military rifles. The Hakims were LOUD. The AG42 B's were accurate. Enjoy it.

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Re: New (to me) Ljungman

#11 Post by Calfed » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:33 am

jmcdude wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:59 pm
I have had Ljungmans and two Hakim's over the past years. Very different approach to semi military rifles. The Hakims were LOUD. The AG42 B's were accurate. Enjoy it.
Thanks, Dude.

Do you have a pet load for your ljungman?

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Re: New (to me) Ljungman

#12 Post by jmcdude » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:17 pm

I mostly found out that PMC Silver ammo was my favorite for hunting with my Ljungmans, and most any surlus for the Hakims.

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Re: New (to me) Ljungman

#13 Post by Calfed » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:36 pm

I have had some luck with 34.5-36.0 grs of IMR 4064, but with a flyer about 1 out of 5 shots. I think the problem is that powder loads in the mid thirty range does not fill the case up, resulting in inconsistencies.

I need to make a gas adjustment valve out of the gas block, so I can use one of the slower burning powders in the mid 40 gr range.

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