Just use the Wayback Machine. link https://archive.org/web/
If a post was saved by the author or a member that thought it important enough to save- it is archived.
Copy the SRF page "URL" and paste it into the Wayback Machine search/browse box. Hit search button and you will see new page with a year bar on the top and a calendar for that year appearing below the bar. Select the year and the calendar shows a highlighted circle for the correct save day on the calendar. Click on the highlighted circle and you see a box with Date snapshot and blue code . Click again on the blue code. All pictures & information in the post are present & intact.
With time most of my forum pictures will be restored. Direct links below.
page 1 https://web.archive.org/web/20190203223 ... f=46&t=608
page 2 https://web.archive.org/web/20190204142 ... 8&start=15
page 3 https://web.archive.org/web/20190204142 ... 8&start=30
page 4 https://web.archive.org/web/20190601232 ... 8&start=45
Restored 17 June 2020 with slight modifications.
Yugoslavian M57 Tokareva Pistol Crest Types (T33)
The old SRF link from the last saved version in the Wayback Machine is dated 2 July 2016. This is an old lost post that I started on 3 July 2010 when I had Todd from Family select some special mint examples for purchase. Shown below is a link to the PDF - goggle version of the 2 July 2016 last saved Wayback version on the original SRF. Please note that the old version is no longer of much value due to lost photos and broken links. I am going to redo, update, and re edit this post by listing examples of M57 crests by letter codes A-P and show the T and sterile receiver pistols. I will use views of my pistols, photos from the original posts, as well as Timbuktu"s pistols crest. The source will be listed. I will then search the web for photo examples of any missing codes I do not have access to. I will use a post for each known code A-J, M N P, T and sterile crest pistols. While most M57s seem to have prefix codes, Timbuktu has some M57s with suffix codes. In the original post as I found a new crest type, I called them the first, second, third ... up to 10th versions for each different crest type I encounter. In the new version I am organizing the crest photos by prefix or suffix, but I will add which photo identified each of the 10 different M57 crest types in the original post.
On page 234 in Serbian & Yugoslav Mauser Rifles by Branko Bogdanovic, (2005), he shows 3 different crests found on Mauser rifles: the early DFJ crest of 1945, found on some Yugo capture, German K98k rifles; the FNRJ crest- (1945-1963), found on the rebuilt K98k, 98/48, M24/47, M48, M48A; and the SFRJ crest (1963-1992). But this is only three different versions of the Yugo National Coat of Arms. Further research finds more variety is also present in Yugo Mauser crests, see nothernug's comment-interesting research: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... d-markings
Likewise the M57 Yugo Tokarev pistol also exhibits more variations in their crest applications. I hope to post a summary of the 9-10 different M57 crests- just one clear photo of each crest type identified at a later date. Note, the mods do not want links to other forums, but Gunboards has a M57 serial number inventory. Do google search for: "Yugo M57 Tokarev Survey".
Our former mod Charles posted this list on the original SRF post:
Note A code and B code M57 pistols that I have observed are serial numbers with suffix codes. All others seem to have prefix codes.The mupples date sequence for M57s is one of the following:
1957 __ __ (5 torch crests only)
1958 A- __
1959 B- A-
1960 C- B-
1961 D- C-
1962 E- D-
1963 F- E- (5 or 6 torch crests)
1964 G- F- (6 torch crests only)
Here is a reference link: History Of The Zastava M57
Atop the slide, directly ahead of the rear sight is the Yugoslavian crest or emblem. Several different styles of this emblem are known to exist on the M-57, with some styles dependent on the date of manufacturer. All of the crests that I have examined have the date of November 29, 1943 on them. The emblem was created by Dorde Andrejevic-Kun, an artist from the capital city of Belgrade in 1943. The emblem for socialist Yugoslavia consisted of five torches that were burning together as a single flame being surrounded by wheat. This represented the unity and brotherhood of the five nations of Yugoslavia which included, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia,and Slovenia, but left out the ethnic Muslims. Then in 1963, the name of the country was changed to the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the crest was redesigned with six torches to represent the six Yugoslavian federal republics, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia.
PLEASE SEE THE UPDATED PRODUCTION CHARTS ON PAGE 4Determining the year a Zastava M57 was manufactured can be estimated by a few details. The serial number, the crest on top of the slide and the lettering around the star on the grip. The serial number will most likely consist of a letter prefix followed by a dash and some numbers.
The date sequence is one of the following:
1957 - No Prefix, 5 torch crests only
1958 - A Prefix
1959 - A and B Prefix
1960 - B and C Prefix
1961 - C and D Prefix
1962 - D and E Prefix
1963 - E and F Prefix, 5 or 6 torch crests
1964 - F and G Prefix, 6 torch crests only
The lettering around the star on the grip changed from FNRJ to SFRJ in 1963.
FNRJ = Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia = 1946-1963
SFRJ = Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia = 1963-1992 (Socijalisticka Federativna Republika Jugoslavija)
Link to original SRF post 2 July 2016
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2BZ02 ... sp=sharing
source orig post-Dan's Ammo
source AIM 2013