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German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:41 pm
by indy1919a4
Was not aware of this ammo before, but unreal devastating rounds. Does show the brutality of the Eastern Front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXaaybiRiYY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnt-nti7-Nw

Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:33 pm
by 72 usmc
Neat stuff, a rare find at a gun show if in the box. If you find a single round its about $20. see http://gmic.co.uk/topic/11114-cartridge-collection/
photos from above source:

B - Patrone German
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Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:47 pm
by 72 usmc
I have never seen these at show s? Soviet WW II explosive round had a red tip or red band on the case. fugasnij 7.62x54R
see http://mosinnagant.net/r2ssia.asp
Excellent list of Russian Mosin ammo type shown in the above link.

Mosin 7.62x54R explosive ammo
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Apparently it could go off in the barrel :doh: :doh:
explosive 7.62 x 54 R see http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display. ... icles=2752

Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:57 pm
by indy1919a4
Thanks for the extra photos and links.

Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:56 am
by Dannyboy53
The idea behind this was to detonate when the bullet struck a target/soldier? I would have thought the strike of the bullet would have been sufficient for disabling or killing the target. Any feedback on the performance of these rounds?

Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:24 am
by Mustang_51D
As far as I've heard, they were used as spotting/signalling ammo. Pretty much "look, there's going to be a flash, all machine guns shoot at the location of the flash as soon as they see it".
Plus, according to several reports and books I've read, it was used by snipers to shoot very important targets, as to make sure they're really dead (one of the accounts I've read was about a German sniper who used a captured SVT and explosive ammo to shoot Soviet officers).
Oh, and I had seen somewhere a video of a ballistic gel test comparing 7.62x54r and 7.92x57 explosive ammo. Both rounds had the same power and accuracy... but the Mauser round tended to explode later, which often happened, when using ballistic gel blocks roughly shaped like a human and "filled" with animal bones... after the bullet left the body of its target.

Re: German and Russian Exploding sniper ammo during WW II

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:14 pm
by dynachrome
Simo Haya survived an explosive round:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

"On the 6 March 1940, Häyhä was hit in his lower left jaw by an explosive bullet fired by a Red Army soldier.[22] He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his face was missing", but he did not die, regaining consciousness on 13 March, the day peace was declared. Shortly after the war, Häyhä was promoted from alikersantti (Corporal) to vänrikki (Second lieutenant) by Finnish Field Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim.[23]"