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So is this a Boer m1895??

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So is this a Boer m1895??

#1 Post by indy1919a4 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:45 pm

Picked up a rifle over the weekend, looks to be a Boer Mauser but there is a lot of little details with those..

1st the stock is not right, it has been sanded or replaced.. The Bolt is Mismatched.. But all the rest of the rifle is matching..

Serial number is B9283 and that is stamped on the Barrel and Receiver. So looking for input.

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Re: So is this a Boer m1895??

#2 Post by shoggoth80 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:33 pm

Not an expert on Mausers, or the nuances of the 1895 in regards to Boer War. I thought they often favored the carbine versions (I think I actually saw one of these, sporterized unfortunately). I could very well be wrong here. Good looking rifle though! 7mm is a pretty pleasant round to shoot. My example also has a mismatched bolt.

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Re: So is this a Boer m1895??

#3 Post by 72 usmc » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:25 pm

Cool find, correct B serial #; now pull the bolt and be sure it has a distinctive attribute found on Boer War shipped rifles: does it have a squared off flat surface at the bottom of the bolt front? Then you got an actual Boer war Rifle. Any carvings on the stock??? Too bad some idiot sanded & messed up the stock.
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note serial # stamped on wood, this is missing on your specimen.


Lets see pictures of your bolt.

This is a rather informative history / rifle video( Forgotten weapons: Dutch Farmers Against the Empire: ZAR Mausers of the Boer War) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSShy_Yr3U


ALSO The Model 1893/95 "Boer Model" Mauser by
Paul Scarlata - 2010

You most likely know about Paul Scarlata's article on Boer War mausers: https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial ... 1007/99362


also tis old post: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthr ... an-answers
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Re: So is this a Boer m1895??

#4 Post by indy1919a4 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:26 am

72 usmc wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:25 pm
Cool find, correct B serial #; now pull the bolt and be sure it has a distinctive attribute found on Boer War shipped rifles: does it have a squared off flat surface at the bottom of the bolt front? Then you got an actual Boer war Rifle. Any carvings on the stock??? Too bad some idiot sanded & messed up the stock.
Spanish 1893 bolts will also have the flat in the bolt front, not just the Boer rifles.. No scock carvings..

per the sanded stock.. we all age.. We all go through changes...

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Re: So is this a Boer m1895??

#5 Post by 72 usmc » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:32 am

Spanish 1893 bolts will also have the flat in the bolt front, not just the Boer rifles
Indy, You got me there. I did not know the Cubian Spanish 1893 Mausers made in Spain had the same bolt, not DWM German made Spanish 93s that did have the same bolt. I never buy any Spanish made firearms- always heard tales of poor steel and poor workmanship. All my 7mms are Chilean 1895, or Brazilian 1908 , & a Peruvian 1891 crested German, 7mm Mausers that were cheep and plentiful back in the day. I see lots of Spanish crested Mausers, but a nice German DWM 1893 is a hard find. But the scarce original stock, carved stock, German Boer Mauser is a great find and commands top buck. They are rarely found at WI gun shows. I think the cheep Brazilian and Chileans were $150-200 tops for a nice matching specimen. I avoid the Argentines because of their oddball different ammo. Never seen the need for one, and now prices have gone nuts on even the less expensive South American Mausers. Do you know if a German 1893 Spanish Mauser DWM bolt would fit an uncrested, DWM 95-96 Boer mauser? I guess it would be the same bolt and parts???
All those 7mm rifles with somewhat decent bores are great shooters, if you have a like new bore you got a tack driver if you can still see the target out to 300.

I wish i had an original 1893 German made Turk, but mine was converted to 8mm.
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Re: So is this a Boer m1895??

#6 Post by indy1919a4 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:44 pm

72 usmc wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:32 am
Spanish 1893 bolts will also have the flat in the bolt front, not just the Boer rifles


I wish i had an original 1893 German made Turk, but mine was converted to 8mm.
I will respond later to you on that Argentine issue.. Odd ball ammo, yeah, kinda, sorta.. If you look at it that 7.65 Argentine round, it was Mausers 1st response to the new 8mm lebel Smokeless round.. And look at all the countries that adopted it for a bit.. Turkey, Argentina, Belgium even Spain used 7.65 out of necessity in Morocco & Cuba. So say what you want but it is a very historical round...

Also there are Argentine rifles that will knock your teeth out..

Again later on that.

Per that 1893 original Turk.. Yeah I know what you mean, I have made some valiant efforts but each time I get my bottom kicked...

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