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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Would this be a possibility to use? Have to single shot or push the cartridge as you cycle the bolt. I have used these and recoil is very low compared to normal loads:


http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/6 ... ecoil-ammo


"648 rd case - 7.62x54R Czech Surplus 46 grain Hollow Core Low Recoil ammo
http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/6 ... ecoil-ammo

A 648 round case, 54x12 round boxes, of 7.62x54R Czech Surplus Hollow Core Short Range ammo packed in a cardboard case. This ammo has very low recoil in the Mosin Nagant, it feels like shooing a 22 Mag. Ideal for youth shooting, or training where reduced recoil is desired, very accurate to about 200 yards. Everyone who loves shooting Mosins needs a case of this ammo in their stock. "

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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:30 pm 
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Do you have to single shot because it's too short to reliably feed from the magazine?


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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
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single shot because it's too short to reliably feed


Yes, short round nosed bullet


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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
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The ammo in the link has low recoil because it has a light bullet. That doesn't necessarily mean it is low pressure. Three things they say concern me: huge muzzle flash, loud report, and 3200 fps muzzle velocity. Don't confuse recoil with pressure unless the two things you're comparing are shooting the same weight bullet. Compare a 220 Swift to a 45/70. The Swift has nearly zero recoil compared to the 45/70 yet operates at nearly double the pressure. Swift pressure would blow up some guns designed for the 45/70. I would not venture a guess of what this ammo pressure is without a lot more data.

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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
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We have gone through thousands of rounds of that and never had to single load a single round.
Just fed and fired mag after mag of the stuff.
So sad it used to be $25 a thousand just a few years ago.

As for the pressure. to toss that tiny plastic bullet 200 yards that fast it has to be way up there.
Just how deep is the pitting?
Mosins have pretty heavy barrels. and the pitting could actually be quite deep and not effect a thing.
Clean out the pits and stop the rust first.
You could hand load some light loads for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mosin Barrel Pitting
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My bad. I assumed a lighter bullet = a lighter load. They are NOT plastic, but steel(?) Magnetic anyway and hollow.

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My bad. I assumed a lighter bullet = a lighter load. They are NOT plastic, but steel(?) Magnetic anyway and hollow.

I'm with these guys for sure. High pressure COULD lead to catastrophic failure, and we (I at least) don't want to see anyone hurt. The gun grabbers sure don't need another name added to the statistics, and we wouldn't want to lose a web friend here either! :D Safety first always. I insist that those around me wear hearing and eye protection when we're at the range. I perforated a primer yesterday on a .303 British round with my old SMLE (I'd replaced the firing pin on it and didn't get it adjusted for proper pin protrusion, got in a hurry in the repair, stupid me!) and got a nice hot powder facial! Had I not had my shooting glasses on, I'd no doubt be blind today. Sorry to stray a bit from the barrel issue, but you see what I mean, you can't be too careful! :thumb:

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