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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:12 pm 
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There is a lug on the side so there must have been a bayonet. Was it purpose designed or retrofitted? Were there multiple different ones or was there only one style? Most guys I have seen in antique pictures have big sword-style bayonets that look like the one I have from a French Chassepot rifle.

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There are a bunch of different types of bayonets for the Gew88.I believe the official issue bayonet at the time the Gew88 was adopted was the long sword bayonet you are describing which was originally intended to be fitted to the Gew71 and 71/84.During WW1 there were different styles of ersatz bayonets made to fit all the rifles in German service including the Gew88.These are the most easily obtainable and cheapest if youre just looking for something to put on the end of your rifle to make it complete.Heres a pic of my ersatz bayonet mounted on my 88.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:31 am 
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The 88 probably has the most bayonets that were made or adopted for it of any rifle ever made. THe original blade was the 71 which is the big one you usually see, however most of the WWI ersatz bayoents including French 66's, 74's, various ersoc's etc. were made to fit the 88 so that makes it around 100 different models, then the Irish had the French gras modified to fit it, etc. etc. I must have 30-40 bayonets that fit the 88 and I know of many I dont have.

If you wnated to only collect bayoents for the 88 you woudl have an impressive colelction with some very rare blades costing several times the cost of the rifle.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:22 am 
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I like to have a correct bayonet for each of my rifles. These rifles were very inexpensive so I think I should find inexpensive bayonets for them. I have two so I should probably get two different ones. Perhaps one sword-style and one knife-style. (Sorry for the imprecise terminology.) Any recommendations for where to look for inexpensive ones?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:13 am 
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If i knew where there were cheap ones, I woudl have bought them myself :thumb: a good 71 sawback for the 88 will set you back about double the price of the 88 (from th eprices I have seen as I am looking for one to check which of my blades are for the 88), some of the rarer ersatz's would cost closer to $1000 each in good condition. Look out for one of the common ersatz blades with the double split muzzle ring - and not a 10" blade - you shoudl be able to pick up one of those for around 100, a 71 without the saw would be 300+ depending on scabbard etc. There are some South American blades for the 88 as well and these are usually chepaer and in better condition

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:35 pm 
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There are photo's of Gew 88's with the 98a quillion back bayonets on them along with pic's of 88's with the butcher bladed 98 bayonets mounted......
I guess in war , If it fit's, it will work.

I would love to add a sawback 71 to my collection!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:20 pm 
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The M1898 quillback or M1898/05 butcher blade bayonets were just photo props, provided by the photographer. In use, these bayonets would break off in a heartbeat. The M1888 rifle has the pre-98 style bayonet lug, which requires a muzzle ring to support the bayonet. The M1898 rifles had a heavy bayonet mounting bar, so no muzzle ring was needed. Here's a link to info on my site regarding the difference.

The M1888's were mostly issued with the M1871 sword or ersatz bayonets. The M1871/84 knife bayonet will mount to the M1888 rifle, but was considered too short. The only ersatz bayonets that will mount properly to the M1888 rifle have the stepped muzzle ring. Like this:

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A nice full-length, non-Turked ersatz bayonet would be historically correct and affordable ($50-$60 on eBay).

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:40 pm 
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MArysdad, not quite accurate on the need for the split ring, there are single diameter split ring ersatz bayonets that have a counter sunk muzzle ring to mount on the chamfered end of the barrel and make a tight fit, these are not common as most have the dual diameter to fit the 88 and the 98, although trials have shown the ring has to be massaged to get a good fit - read bent!!

this is a single diameter split ring counter sunk for the 88
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and of course you could also mount a French Chassepot as these were modified to fit the 88, they have the counter sunk ring as well
this would be really inpressive - but not cheap!!!

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