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Faux Swedish M41B CMP vintage sniper match rifle...updated with range report

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Faux Swedish M41B CMP vintage sniper match rifle...updated with range report

#1 Post by Calfed » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:47 pm

Several years back I got a great deal on a Swedish M96. It is not a total mixmaster...bolt and bolt components, receiver, and buttplate match. Floorplate, barrel bands and bolt release do not. Bore is great.

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My cheap camera can't quite capture the bore's shine.

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I never really shot it much, but here is 5 rounds of the PPU 120gr "target ammo" @ 100 yards shot with iron sights right after I got it.

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A few months ago I decided to convert one of my M96's into a Swedish sniper rifle for use in the CMP vintage sniper rifle matches. This one got the nod. I bought an Accumount repro scope mount and sent it to a trusted gunsmith. He is fairly busy and it took some months for him to complete the job. In the mean time I got a smoking deal on a real Swedish M41B sniper rifle, but that is a different story.

After he completed the job, he sent me several pictures of the rifle and I must admit, it came out looking good.

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I'll post more pics and a range report when I can.

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#2 Post by Polock » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:51 pm

Looks good! I often wonder why more CMP sniper competitors do not use Swede 96s. Seems to me that the combo of the accurate M96/6.5 cartridge and ability to use the older Weaver K4 are an affordable alternative to 03s and 03A4s.
Good luck at the match, and congrats on scoring a real M41B---
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#3 Post by Calfed » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:28 pm

Polock wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:51 pm
Looks good! I often wonder why more CMP sniper competitors do not use Swede 96s. Seems to me that the combo of the accurate M96/6.5 cartridge and ability to use the older Weaver K4 are an affordable alternative to 03s and 0A4s.
Good luck at the match, and congrats on scoring a real M41B---
Thanks, Polock.

I struggled with whether or not to modify an otherwise as issued rifle. It came down to the substantial cost of the mount and gunsmithing to install it. I got the rifle for a little under $200 and that was substantially less than the cost of modifying it. I could not justify those expenses on anything less than an excellent rifle.

Looking forward to shooting this and posting a range report.

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#4 Post by burkefj » Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:52 pm

What was your total cost including rifle, mount, scope and work to get it ready?

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#5 Post by Calfed » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:38 am

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#6 Post by Calfed » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:48 am

Here are a couple of pictures of the Swede...

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#7 Post by Calfed » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:48 am

I got a chance to shoot the CMP vintage sniper match "faux" Swedish sniper and it shoots like a house on fire!

I shot a three shot group at 25 yards to make sure it was on paper. I used Prvi Partizan 120 gr "match" ammo. (only had 6 rounds)

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Since the rifle was on paper, I switched to a target at 100 yards. I fired the remainder of my 120 gr PPU match rounds and got the blue circled group.

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I then adjusted the scope and here is where things went a little janky. My son fired three rounds of PPU 139 gr SP and got the red circle group (!). My son is a great shot, as you will see later, and I'm sure that the scatter group was a result of adjusting the scope. I then fired three rounds of the PPU 139 gr's and got the yellow circle group. It appears that it took a couple of rounds to settle the scope down after adjustment (?).

My son then used some 108 gr Lapua ammo that I have and got this group @ 100 yards...about 1/2 MOA

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I then shot this 5 round group with some handloads that I had loaded for my Ljungman (again, at 100 yards).

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Except for the burble after adjusting the scope, the Swede is shooting outstandingly.

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#8 Post by DaleH » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:50 pm

Very nice! FWIW my bro has a collection of 1 of every Swede 6.5mm bolt rifle and a few M38S had that fancy rear sight. Using h4350 powdah over 120-129-grn SMKs or equivalent shot MOA using the aperture sights.

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#9 Post by Calfed » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:38 pm

DaleH wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:50 pm
Very nice! FWIW my bro has a collection of 1 of every Swede 6.5mm bolt rifle and a few M38S had that fancy rear sight. Using h4350 powdah over 120-129-grn SMKs or equivalent shot MOA using the aperture sights.
I believe it, Dale.

I think this rifle likes the lighter bullets. I may experiment around with it a bit using different bullet weights and powders.

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#10 Post by Calfed » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:42 am

I took the faux M41B out this weekend for some 200 and 300 yard shooting. It did pretty well with my reloads.

@200 yards, first two were 7:00 o'clock in the 10 ring, the next three were in the x ring. Group size was about 1.5", or about .75 MOA.

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Things opened up considerably at 300 yards

@300 yards. The barrel had cooled down, not sure what order the shots were because I could not make them out with my spotting scope. Group size is about 3.5", or just over 1 MOA.

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#11 Post by Rapidrob » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:29 am

That is great shooting!
The two at 7 o'clock were the result of the cross being canted to the left slightly. The scope being so high above the bore will cause this and is a learned lesson to really make sure the scope is level. I use the horizon behind the target to verify the cross hairs are level.
You can help to teach the shooters to do this by using wide masking tape at 6-12-3-9 o'clock that you can see ( make sure the target is level) and put your cross hairs on the four tapes. Once you "see" what this looks like, you will do it out of instinct.
The shots are dead on at 300 yards. Now comes the reloading game. I found over the decades that a 3/4 load to max always shoots the best.
You should be able to kick some butt at 600 yards/meters for any match hands down.
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#12 Post by Calfed » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:19 pm

Rapidrob wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:29 am
That is great shooting!
The two at 7 o'clock were the result of the cross being canted to the left slightly. The scope being so high above the bore will cause this and is a learned lesson to really make sure the scope is level. I use the horizon behind the target to verify the cross hairs are level.
You can help to teach the shooters to do this by using wide masking tape at 6-12-3-9 o'clock that you can see ( make sure the target is level) and put your cross hairs on the four tapes. Once you "see" what this looks like, you will do it out of instinct.
The shots are dead on at 300 yards. Now comes the reloading game. I found over the decades that a 3/4 load to max always shoots the best.
You should be able to kick some butt at 600 yards/meters for any match hands down.
Money well spent!
Thanks, Rob.

I had some problems with keeping the rifle level. I've got a scope level on my FN SPR and find that referring to it while shooting helps with my groups. Of course, with this rifle that is not "legal equipment", so I'm going to have to learn your technique to cut down on the flyers.

I also found out that the leather cheek pad developed by the Swede's back in the day is CMP vintage sniper match legal, so I glommed one of those and it definitely helped.

Someday I need to get you to explain how non parallax adjustable scopes like the Weaver K4 work at longer ranges. I'm not sure about that one.

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#13 Post by Rapidrob » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:27 pm

I'll be glad to help out.
I wish I could use the cheek piece you bought but being left handed,I cannot.
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#14 Post by Calfed » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:37 am

Well, I'm wondering how much of a limitation on getting good groups the Weaver 4x scope is.

Low magnification and no parallax adjustment.

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#15 Post by Ernest T » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:14 pm

Very nice shooting! I sold my "Faux" M/41B about a year ago, and kicked myself until I found another one recently. Another Swede aficionado had built one from an M96 with a very good bore. He used the Accumounts mount and also put a Weaver K4 scope on it. I had a spare AJACK scope, so I switched out the Weaver for the AJACK.

Unfortunately, my range only goes out to 225 yards, so I can't really test this rifle. When the weather cools some, I'll take it to my brothers, where I can try it out to 1000 yards.
What load were you using?

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