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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:32 pm 
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As I said in an earlier post, I am interested in where my Mausers were made. So I have compiled a list of codes, the Mfgs., and the cities the factorys were located in.

I have consulted several books, and online sources. I hope that my compilation is complete and accurate. If anyone has any corrections please feel free to post them. This sort of thing is not my strong suit and I hope I made no typos.


S/42K S/42G S/42 42 byf svw svw MB Mauser Werke A.G., Oberndorf-am-Neckar. Lubeck, Germany. Lübeck, is the second largest city in Schleswig-Holstein, in northern Germany.

S/147/G S/147 147 ce J.P. Sauer und Sohn Gewehrfabrik, Suhl Thuringia . Suhl is a city in Thuringia, Germany. (Central Germany)

S/27.G S/27 27 Erfurter Maschinenfabrik (ERMA), Erfurt. Erfurt, is a city in central Germany. It is the capital of the state of Thuringia, and is a manufacturing centre.

S/243 G S/243 243 ar Mauser Werke A.G., Berlin-Borsigwalde Eichborndamm. Berlin is the capital city of Germany, located in eastern Germany.

S/237 237 duv Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik, Lübeck. Lubeck, Germany. Lübeck, is the second largest city in Schleswig-Holstein, in northern Germany.

BSW Berlin-Suhler-Waffen und. Fahrzeugwerke, Waffenfabrik Abteilung, Suhl. Suhl is a city in Thuringia, Germany. (Central Germany)

337 Berlin-Suhler-Waffen/Gustloff Werke, Weimar. Weimar is a city in central Germany. It is located in the Bundesland of Thuringia (German: Thüringen), north of the Thüringer Wald, east of Erfurt, and southwest of Halle and Leipzig.

600 bnz Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G., Steyr. Steyr, Austria. Steyr is a town in the Austrian federal state of Upper Austria, located at the confluence of the rivers Steyr and Enns.

ax Feinmechanische Werke GmbH (ERMA), Erfurt. Erfurt, is a city in central Germany.It is the capital of the state of Thuringia, and is a manufacturing centre.


337 bcd Gustloff Werke,Weimar Weimar is a city in central Germany. It is located in the Bundesland of Thuringia (German: Thüringen), north of the Thüringer Wald, east of Erfurt, and southwest of Halle and Leipzig.

ax/ar ERMA/Mauser Werke A.G., Berlin-Borsigwald. Berlin is the capital city of Germany, located in eastern Germany.

bnz 42 bnz Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G., Steyr / Concentration Camp Mauthausen. Mauthausen is a small town in Upper Austria.

dou Waffen Werke Brünn A.G., Bystrica. Possibly the city of Banská Bystrica ,Czechoslovakia.

bcd/ar Gustloff Werke/Mauser Werke A.G., Berlin-Borsigwalde. Berlin is the capital city of Germany, located in eastern Germany.

bnz Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G., Steyr / Concentration Camp Mauthausen. Mauthausen is a small town in Upper Austria.

601 bcd/bnz Gustloff Werke/ Steyr-Daimler-Puch, Steyr Austria. Steyr is a town in the Austrian federal state of Upper Austria, located at the confluence of the rivers Steyr and Enns.

dot Waffen Werke Brünn A.G., Brünn Possibly the city of Banská Bystrica, Czechoslovakia.


I hope this helpfull and of interest to the group.[/b]


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Now how do you take a still-shot in google.earth? I've got them all marked down with the codes in the name.

edit: nevermind :)

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WOW, now thats cool....now how do I print that?


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Gardner wrote:
WOW, now thats cool....now how do I print that?


right click, print

it will probably put it on 2 or more pages-- you could cut/tape them to fit, oooor, you can save it, open it up in paint shop (start, accesories, paint), then on the top there are "file" "edit"... click "Image", then "Stretch/skew". then put in the horizontal and vertical stretch values 75 (that will make it 75% of the size it is now). then it should all be on one page.


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Thanks to Gardner and LedZep for sharing your good efforts. Now I can see where my byf and bcd came from. I do have a problem and am asking for help. I am a fairly new milsurp addict. Have collected most of my adult life but the rifles were American except for one Mauser which Katrina fatally "bit"; at least I was able to donate several parts to others.

Now I will display my some of my great ignorance. I have what I was told is a Turkish capture, and unlike Russian captures which still bear most of the German markings, it seems the Turks scrubbed everything off they could and plastered their own stuff all over the place. Is there any way to determine what used to be on the rifle - any "out of sight" place that might still have markings so I can determine where it came from? Or, have I misunderstood this Turkish capture thing? Will really appreciate any help. If I knew how to import the Emoticons into this post, the blushing face would be right here. (Schultz seems to be the master of those - really like his ROFL.) Thanks in advance for your help. I've learned a lot just reading the posts.

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bnz 42 bnz Steyr-Daimler-Puch A.G., Steyr / Concentration Camp Mauthausen. Mauthausen is a small town in Upper Austria.

Steyr also had a concentration camp attached to it it was called Steyr-Munichholtz that used inmates from both there and Mauthausen to work in the arms factory. Some of the bnz Mausers are marked with single-rune (SS) stampings on the receiver which indicated that those Mauser's were repaired or re-arsenaled under SS supervision. According to several web page articles on those two camps, the inmates were worked to death.

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Not Bad...
The Map is actually Cool.
I have a huge world map on the wall of my office and I often look at different cities where the factories were/are! :lol:


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I just bought an old sporter Mauser made in Danzig...Do you have anything on that?

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From the NRA's Magazine, The Rifleman. September 2006.

S Prefix with Letter Suffix

S/27.G....Erma, Erfurt...................................1935
S/42K.....Mauser, Oberndorf.........................1934
S/42G.....Mauser, Oberndorf.........................1935
S/42k.... .J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl.................1934
S/147/G..J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl.................1935
S/243G...Mauser, Borsigwalde.....................1935

S Prefix with Year of Manufacture

S/27.......Erma, Erfurt................................................1936 - 38
S/42.......Mauser, Oberndorf.....................................1936 - 38
S/147.....J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl..............................1936 - 38
S/237.....Berlin-Lubecker, Lubeck.............................1936 - 38
S/243.....Mauser, Borsigwalde..................................1936 - 38
BSW.......Berlin-Suhler Waffen und Fahrzeugwerke..1937 - 39

Numeric Codes

42......Mauser, Oberndorf.....................1938 - 40
147....J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl..............1938 - 40
27......Erma, Erfurt................................1938 - 40
237....Berlin-Lubecker, Lubeck.............1938 - 40
243....Mauser, Borsigwalde..................1938 - 40
337....Gustloff Werke, Weimar.............1939 - 40
660....Steyr Daimler-Puch, Steyr...........1939 - 40
945....Waffen Werke Brunn, Brno.........1940 - 41

Letter Codes

ar........Mauser, Borsigwalde........................1941 - 44
ax........Erma, Erfurt.....................................1940 - 41
bcd......Gustloff Werke, Weimar...................1941 - 45
bnz......Steyr Daimler-Puch, Steyr................1941 - 44
byf.......Mauser, Oberndorf...........................1941 - 45
ce........J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl....................1941 - 44
dot.......Waffen Werke Brunn, Brno..............1943 - 44
dou......Waffen Werke Brunn, Bystrica.........1942 - 45
duv......Berlin-Lubecker, Lubeck...................1941 - 44
svw45..Mauser, Oberndorf...........................1945
swp45..Waffen Werke Brunn, Brno..............1945

Double Codes (combined production efforts)

ax/ar.......Erma, Erfurt & Mauser, Borsigwalde............................1941
bcd/ar.....Gustloff Werke, Weimar & Mauser, Borsigwalde..........1942 - 43
bcd/bnz...Gustloff Werke, Weimar & Steyr Diamler-Puch, Steyr..1944

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Thanks, Popeye! I was fortunate recently to acquire an ax - 1940, in great condition for a good price, and now I know where it came from. :D
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Still no reference to Danzig??

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Try this site, it briefly talks about Danzig. PS, Danzig was a german city but was annexed by Poland at the end of WWI (Gdansk). http://www.carbinesforcollectors.com/germanrifles.html

Here is a little bit from it:

A new Mauser improved model was adopted by Spain as the 7x57mm Modelo Espanol 1893 which began the ascendancy of the Mauser rifle as the most desired military for half a century. This rifle was manufactured by Loewe & Co. in Berlin, and by Mauser for Turkey in 7.65x53mm with a magazine cut off device as the Turk Model 1893. The Spanish model was adopted by Brazil and other Latin American nations. Derivatives were adopted by Chile as the Modelo 1895, China as the Model 1895, Serbia as the Model 1899, and by many other nations under various designations in 7x57mm,or, a short version of the 7x57mm used by one Boer contract based on the 7.65mmx53mm case (the 7x53mm), or 7.65x53mm, as desired by the purchaser. Sweden adopted a 6.5x55mm carbine as the Model 1894 and a long rifle as the Model 1896.
The export of Mauser rifles by then was a major item in Germany's foreign trade up to the start of WW1.
During this period in the 1890's Germany was seeking a replacement for the Modell 1888. Several designs were considered and at one time it was seriously proposed to adopt a small bore cartridge, but existing stocks of the 7.92x57mm cartridge were so huge that it was decided to retain this round for the new rifle. A greatly improved model was adopted by Germany as the Gewehr Modell 1898 and a license was secured to allow production of the design at Spandau,Erfurt, and Danzig Arsenals which were state owned. A royalty was paid to Loewe which controlled the Deutches Waffen Munitions Fabriken, Berlin, and Mauser Waffenfabriken, Oberndorf, for each rifle or carbine produced at state arsenals. Production at Amberg Arsenal in Bavaria slightly afterward. A limited number of carbines, Karabiner Modell 1898 were made, but muzzle flash and recoil were brutal.

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"bcd" may not simply be a 'code' for Weimar, it's probably an abbreviation for Buchenwald, a labor camp listed as making armaments (though I'm having trouble finding out anything about what the prisoners, there, specifically made).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchenwald_concentration_camp


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