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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#91 Post by indy1919a4 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:22 pm

72 usmc wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:20 pm
The last gun show was real sparce on K98 mausers. No RCs, no Israeli K98s. Over 500 tables :snooty: :snooty:
Which gun show is that??

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#92 Post by 72 usmc » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:49 am

I have never been to that show.. So I will ask your insights. Has it started to lose alot of its older surplus gun look so far??

Our largest, at the Fond du Lac, Wi fair grounds that was on 15 April.
added here are some old comments from past shows:
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This is an odd show because so many different people set up each time. One show can be crazy surplus heavy the next all hunting guns or pistols. About 60% private sales the rest dealers , but all check the DL and now a days request that you provide your DL number and or sign a statement that you can buy a gun and are not a felon or have a domestic dispute. All incoming guns checked and banded. I always find great stuff, depending on the show. Unfortunately, all the old links about this show with the many deals over the past 15 years are lost due to the forum crash. It is odd because there can be deals from people selling off the dead collectors collection to dealers that have crazy prices. There are a few neat display tables- but few. Not much junk. Not much really rare top end stuff in the $2000-5000 range. Not so much original Revolution or Civil War stuff. Lots of cowboy pistols WW I , WWII, Span Am and hunting stuff. Less black rifle stuff, it does not sell at top prices.
Little to no fully automatic stuff- if its there it is a display not for sale thing. I like the small junk- arrowheads,toy lead soldiers, military books, old ammo, web gear, helmets, bayonets and maybe a way under priced surplus rifle. I am getting too old to be buying stuff, and prices are just nuts. Some people only sell to non dealers and will not sell to dealers as per the dead collectors wishes. It is a wonderful show- always odd stuff & different people that may things interesting. Always surplus , but prices differ greatly. Most seem to be on the high end from dealers.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#93 Post by indy1919a4 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:32 am

I have never been to that show.. So I will ask your insights. Has it started to lose alot of its older surplus gun look so far??

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#94 Post by 72 usmc » Mon May 14, 2018 10:24 am

Of late the last show was short on any K98s.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#95 Post by 72 usmc » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:18 pm

Serial number #7922I (Price $650) This offering is for the pictured Czech K98 Mauser Rifle. Maker marked from the Czech Brno arsenals, we understand this type to be a post war arsenal build of left over wartime parts.

Good condition overall, serial numbers match bolt to receiver, the only numbered parts. Military crest is removed from the receivers top, blued finish with wear mostly on the muzzle area and sharp edges.

Stock and hand guard are sound laminated with no obvious German proofs, no provision for a cleaning rod and an ink number on the left side. Features the large winter trigger guard.

Chambered in 8mm Mauser the bore is brite and excellent. Import marked.
source:https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... dcategory=


Libertytreecollectors just got in a scrubbed, Czech K98k and it sold ASAP in 2 days at... , hold onto your hats--- :doh: :think: $650. Then shipping, Insu. and FFL transfer fees on top of the purchase price. :scared-eek: Their pictures will go away soon because it's sold, but I am posting some here for reference. The picture source is Libertytree photos. Prices are really nuts on K98k rifles ???? A common, Post War Czech, winter trigger, scrubbed receiver, K98k is now worth upwards toward 600? Really? :violin: :violin: :violin: That is more like a $250 rifle, I am getting too old, or prices have just gone nuts. :roll: :think:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#96 Post by 72 usmc » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:08 am

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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#97 Post by 72 usmc » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:10 pm

Here is a nice reference link with some nice examples with great photos for NORWEGIAN CAPTURE K98ks, Well worth a look.
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http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... ian-K98kF1



Also see https://www.forgottenweapons.com/norweg ... ed-mauser/
Norwegian K98kF1 Repurposed Mauser
June 4, 2017 Ian McCollum Bolt Action Rifles, Conversion, Video 22


At the end of When Germany capitulated in 1945, there were nearly 400,000 German soldiers in Norway (largely thanks to the efforts of the Norwegian Resistance to prevent them from being transferred south). This provided Norway with a massive supply of K98k Mauser rifles to reequip their armed forces, and they picked about 250,000 of the best condition guns (mostly early war production, naturally) to take into service. These rifles were repaired and refurbished as necessary, and given new Norwegian serial numbers on the receivers, bolts, and buttplates. They were also modified to have “U”-notch rear sights and square post front sights.

In 1953 and 54, the a program was undertaken to rebarrel the rifles from 8x57mm to .30-06 (7.62x63mm) in order to be able to use supplies of .30-06 ammunition made available by the United States. While the Norwegian Navy retained its 8mm chambering, all the other service branches had their rifles modified to use the new cartridge, and these rifles were given the new designation m/K98kF1. A second rebarreling was begun years later to convert rifles to the new 7.62mm NATO cartridge, but this was quickly abandoned and the G3 rifle adopted instead, with the Mauser going into war reserve by 1973.

In this above link are two fantastic rifles: a BYF 42 owned by dragnov18 and the BSW 38 owned by danselhd2. Just in case the link goes away or the photos disappear, I posted some highlights of each individuals rifle. These photos are taken from the above source. There are many more fine photos in the above link showing the details of each rifle. It seems both fellows are experts at taking photos. These babies are a very hard find at Wisconsin gun shows-- and if you do see a Norwegian K98k I bet the price will be sky high. These are select examples well worth looking at in above the link. What dreams are made of :dance: :pray:
Around 1952 Norway switched to the 30-06 caliber and the Nazi K98 rifles left in Norway were rebuilt and rechambered to 30-06. Specific details are mentioned on page 3 of this post and another outstanding example in a photo library is provided as a link to Badger's rifle on the bottom of page 3 .

Maybe before I am dead, Ill see one in person at a gun show in WI :snooty: :think: :think:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#98 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:33 pm

Picture highlights of the Norwegian BYF 42 owned by dragnov18. His photos from above source.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#99 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:35 pm

The Norwegian capture BYF 42 has most of its original parts & serial numbers.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#100 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:40 pm

Can it get even better see these highlights from a Norwegian BSW 38 owned by danselhd2. Again his photos from the above link. Many more photos are provided in the primary source link. All photos are danselnd2s.
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#101 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:44 pm

And more of the BSW 38:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#102 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:54 pm

The next is one of the best examples for the Lion crest and Beech stock on a 7.62 Israeli K98k you will ever see at a gun show. This one is owned by Vandle and here is the source link: http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... =18&t=2427
All photos are Vandles.

The Czech, post war made K98k with the Rampant Lion crest with the "7.62" stamped above the crest at the forward edge of the receiver is a rare find today. This rifle type is reviewed on page 3. We would all have a lucky day if we found one of these and could actually afford to buy it at a gun show :dance: :clap: :pray: :snooty:

I am reposting some of the picture s here because this example is as good as it gets:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#103 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:57 pm

More of Vandle's Israeli K98:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#104 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:59 pm

More of Vandle's Israeli k98:
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Re: Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

#105 Post by 72 usmc » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:01 pm

The quality of the stock patina and wood is fantastic:

Here is a link to a second Israeli k98 rifle Vandle also owns and one of mine:
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewto ... 1131#p5811
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